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    15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]

    ArmySoldier

      Please direct all questions in this thread, so I dont have to jump from post to post and if someone has the same question they will be able to read here.

      I have 2000+ hours of flight within the MOS, 2500+ hours of Mission Commander time, and I'm a certified insctructor pilot within my respective system. I will answer all questions I can, and If I cannot personally I know people that most likely will be able too.

        • 1. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
          boosted29 User

          Hello,

           

          I am a 20 year old who has decided to join the Army. I am extremely interested in 15W and just had a few questions. I have spoke to a recruiter already and was told that there are an overwhelming number of soldiers already enlisted at this position and I am trying to figure out if I still want to pick this job when I sign.

           

          First off I scored a 78 on my pre-ASVAB, I know it isnt the real test but is that a decent range to be in to be qualified for the job?

           

          How fast is the general promotion rate? I know it depends on the individual but I was just wondering if it is unusually slow because of capacity or any other factors.

           

          Where is the AIT conducted at? As well as other training that I could go throw?

           

          How does the rotation of jobs work? I was told that everyone in 15W spends a certain amount of time as an operator, and certain amount of time on a recovery team?

           

          Also is it a primarily an overseas deployment position or mostly stateside?

           

          I am sure I will have some more questions soon. Thank you in advance, I would love to know the most possible information on the position.

          • 2. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
            ArmySoldier

            First off I scored a 78 on my pre-ASVAB, I know it isnt the real test but is that a decent range to be in to be qualified for the job?

            The main thing you would need to be concerned with is your GT score to get into the MOS, and with a 78 range that should be plenty, I dont know this answer 100% however I know a few people who have around that range.

             

            How fast is the general promotion rate? I know it depends on the individual but I was just wondering if it is unusually slow because of capacity or any other factors.

            Promotion rate to SPC is automatic, follows the general army guidelines. However points for E-5 last month was 350 (the lowest possible) these numbers change on a month to month basis however they are about average.

             

            Where is the AIT conducted at? As well as other training that I could go throw?

            AIT is in Ft. Huachuca, Arizona. You will receive all of your training there.

             

            How does the rotation of jobs work? I was told that everyone in 15W spends a certain amount of time as an operator, and certain amount of time on a recovery team?

            The job rotation depends on the operations of your unit. Last deployment we were on the same base, so I went to the launch site twice a week and flew 12hours a day at the forward site the other days. The recovery team is nothing different all this means is you would be launching the aircraft and landing it, while at the forward site you will be solely flying and not launching and landing, we do this so we can maintain continious coverage for our supported brigade.

             

            Also is it a primarily an overseas deployment position or mostly stateside?

            We conduct the majority of our job overseas, simply for the fact that the FAA doesnt really like UAV's in the united states to much. Diffrent bases depend on how often you will fly in the state but your primary flight locations will be during a deployment

             

            I am sure I will have some more questions soon. Thank you in advance, I would love to know the most possible information on the position.

             

            Anymore questions let me know, and good luck

            • 3. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
              boosted29 User

              Wow thank you for the information. I had a few more questions as well.

               

              When you are deployed then what exactly is there to do with your free time. I know It varies on where you are, and I have heard that Afghanistan is not as built up as Iraq is as far as living quaters go. I just wanted to hear your insight.

               

              After you come back to the states from a tour is there just more training or is it doing random things that your unit is doing?

               

              Also were you saying that automatically out of AIT we get promoted to SPC or did I missunderstand you?

               

              And finally, is there any special pay involved in being a 15W or is that just a rumor I heard?

              • 4. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                ArmySoldier

                When you are deployed then what exactly is there to do with your free time. I know It varies on where you are, and I have heard that Afghanistan is not as built up as Iraq is as far as living quaters go. I just wanted to hear your insight.

                I personally,College, play guitar , I brought my xbox with me so I play that, workout, I mean its your time you can do whatever you want with your time off, but like you said it depends on the location to what resources you have available. ie- internet in your living quarters, local MWR etc..

                 

                After you come back to the states from a tour is there just more training or is it doing random things that your unit is doing?

                Standard procedure is once u get back from the tour you have 30days of Block Leave (you can take this if you want to but not mandatory). Your equipment will be in reset for the next 90days or so. With that being said it depends on your unit but normally over the next few months its super slow then if your scheduled to deploy again soon you will start recieving new personnel and so forth. Once your equipment is back you will then get a reset team from the schoolhouse to come and refresh your operators.

                 

                Also were you saying that automatically out of AIT we get promoted to SPC or did I missunderstand you?

                The promotion criteria for promotion to the ranks of E-2 to E-4 are:

                 

                •Private (E-2) - Six months time-in-grade (TIG) as a private (E-1).

                •Private First Class (E-3) - Four months TIG as a Private (E-2) and 12 months time-in-service (TIS).

                •Specialist/Corporal (E-4) - 6 months TIG with 24 months TIS.

                 

                What I was trying to say is to get to SPC its automatic no matter what MOS you are, the only thing that varies is if you get a waiver or not.

                Just to clarify TIG= Time in Grade, TIS= Time in service.

                 

                 

                And finally, is there any special pay involved in being a 15W or is that just a rumor I heard?

                As of right now there is no special pay involved, we recently got changed over to the aviation branch. The rumor is true for that of the predator system in the air force however in the army UAS systems do not get flight pay or anything special.

                • 5. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                  joshua.kepler ArmySoldier

                  I'm a SPC 42A looking to reclass in about 7 months to something in the intel field and 15W could fit the bill. My questions...

                   

                  What is garrison life like for a 15W? What time do you get released typically? What work do you do daily? How many college credits do you get on your AARTS for this AIT? What type of battalions do you get assigned to? (infantry, support, etc). What are the duty station opportunities? Does this MOS typically get CONUS, OCONUS, particular duty stations, or are they stationed just about anywhere? How do most 15W's feel about their MOS? Do they enjoy it, or wish they picked something else? Thanks for the help!

                  • 6. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                    ArmySoldier

                    What is garrison life like for a 15W?

                     

                    What time do you get released typically? - General policy in the army is released at 1700 for a standard duty day. Same with any other job (normally, since your in the army you should know it depends on the unit.)

                     

                    What work do you do daily? I do anything and everything, sit around all day, get released, maint on the vehicles our equip is moved in (by maint I mean -10 maint).

                     

                    How many college credits do you get on your AARTS for this AIT? As for AARTS I'm honestly not 100% sure, however for completing the FAA ground school (it is a required section of the training) you are credited 32credit hours at cochise community college towards a degree in Military Intelligence with a special emphasis in unmanned aerial systems (associates degree)

                     

                    What type of battalions do you get assigned to? (infantry, support, etc). Most of the units I know are assigned to either a support or a CAV unit. I myself am assigned to a cav unit. Rumor is they will me making UAV companies in the near future but could be just a rumor

                     

                    What are the duty station opportunities? I will list them all for you

                    ((Conus))

                    Bragg, NC

                    Lewis, WA

                    Drum, NY

                    Carson, CO

                    Hood, TX

                    Stewart, TX

                    Campbell, TN/KY

                    Riley,KS

                    Bliss, TX

                    Irwin, CA

                    Huachuca,AZ

                    Benning,GA

                    Polk,LA

                    Rucker,AL

                     

                    ((OCONUS))

                    Germany

                    Hawaii

                    Alaska

                    Korea

                     

                    There may more thats just what im aware of

                     

                    Does this MOS typically get CONUS, OCONUS, particular duty stations, or are they stationed just about anywhere?

                    As you can see the list above there are alot more oppurtunities to stay stateside

                     

                    How do most 15W's feel about their MOS?

                    Depends who you talk too, not counting all the people who hate the army in general and want to get it. I would say the majority like it, its not really really stressful nor demanding however it does require alot of attention. And its a very unique and fast growing career field. Most people I know that get out because they hate the army, go right back to working with UAV's in the civilian world, so most that dont like it again dislike the army not the MOS itself.

                     

                    Do they enjoy it, or wish they picked something else?

                    See above answer.

                     

                    Hope I answered your questions well enough, if not, ask more

                     

                    SGT Wells

                    • 7. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                      joshua.kepler ArmySoldier

                      Wow, that's a lot of credits on the FAA alone. I'm sure it's a fair amount of AARTS then as well. I'm actually at Fort Polk right now. Not the best post in the Army, and of course I dislike my battalion/MOS. I'm looking for something in Intel, and I'm currently in college for Intel Analyst. 1700 release isn't bad, considering I work past that, and through lunches half the time in Human Resources. (42A is a bad MOS, either that or it's the battalion I'm in). I wouldn't mind being in a support battalion or even CAV. What ASVAB line score do I need for this MOS, do you know? I thought I read a 105 in SC or something online, not sure, but looking at my ERB I don't know which one that is as the ERB reads different.

                       

                      Two things that draw me to 15W, promotions points so low that all you need is a pulse to get promoted, and it's a unique Intel job. I'm almost maxed on ACCP and I have college too, will be maxed I hope sometime next year, especially if I get this MOS all the credits they give you. I wonder if they will give me a ASVAB waiver or if I will have to re take it. I won't re up if they won't give me an MOS I want either. I am extremely interested in this job. Thanks for all your help!

                      • 8. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                        ArmySoldier

                        Not to sound negative but keep in mind its still the army and varies on units what time you get released. I have been released as late as 1900-2000 however I have also been released at 0930, really just depends. I believe your GT score has to be a 110, I could be wrong. Promotions are currently low however for about a year or so maybe longer they were 798. The phase we are currently in, is great for promotions however.

                        • 9. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                          tiffneyhalldye User

                          My husbands re-enlistment has just opened up. He is going to re-enlist but was thinking of changing MOS to 15W. So we have a couple questions.

                           

                          1. What ASVAB scores do you have to have to get into this MOS?

                           

                          2. Can you get a waiver if you are off by a few points?

                           

                          3. For me I was wondering with the legnth of the AIT will the kids and myself be aloud to join him in AZ?

                           

                           

                          He still has about a year that he can re-enlist but we are doing the research to see what we want to do. He wants to eventually go to OCS. He has 60 college credits now but not an Associate Degree. As of right now he is a 91B. Any information that you can give us would be great and any information you can give us about doing our first re-enlistment. Thanks a lot in advance and may God bless you all. From one Proud Army Wife to all of the Soldiers and your families than you for all you do!!!!!

                          • 10. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                            tiffneyhalldye User

                            I found a little information on the following websites.

                             

                             

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                            Edited by: jennifer.matteucci on Mar 4, 2010 3:14 AM - Removed due to AAS Policy: [address removed by filter due to AAS Policy]

                             

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                            • 11. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                              ArmySoldier

                              I believe it is a 110 GT score (which is a score within your ASVAB itself), I dont think it will be waived, however you can take classes to improve your GT score if need be.

                               

                              You and the kids will be able to move to AZ with him during his training and will continue to get BAH as if you were on a normal army installation, however the likelihood of on post housing while your there is unlikely if that matters at all.

                               

                              His re-enlistment, he will be his Alpha zone which means he will have more options available to him. MOS re-class, prefrence of duty station, army schooling, bonus etc.. I currently do not know 100% what he is eligible for that he will have to get from his re-enlistment officer. should be able to get at least 2 of those options possibly 3.

                              • 12. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                                User

                                i know that this is for the army but i was wondering if you had some info on the UAS for the air force as well

                                 

                                i have been looking at all the different armed services and i realize that a uav operator (for army) flies the uav (which has no weapons(or do they)) or controls the camera and such and switches through this

                                 

                                from what i understand in the air force for this similar job is that if enlisted you dont actually fly the predator but you just operate the cameras and sensors, but do you know if they fire the weapons on the predator as well or is that just for the pilot

                                • 13. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                                  ArmySoldier

                                  The army now has the Warrior system which is essentially the predator for the army, has hellf. See the following link

                                   

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                                  If the link doesnt work u can simply go to google and search warrior uav and the wikipedia

                                   

                                  The Air Force requires you to be a commissioned officer to fly the predator, from the air personnel I talked with no enlisted personnel work with the predator.

                                   

                                  Edited by: jennifer.matteucci on Mar 4, 2010 3:15 AM- Removed due to AAS Policy: [address removed by filter due to AAS Policy]

                                   

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                                  • 14. Re: 15W Unmanned Aerial Systems [[PLEASE DIRECT ALL QUESTIONS HERE]]
                                    User

                                    so with the warrior would enlisted still be able to pilot the uav or is the army going to only allow officers to fly warriors?

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